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All right, y'all,

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you are joining us for a very special mini
series here at Prevent Connect.

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I am Janae Sargent
and I am joined by my colleague,

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friend and oftentimes
co-host Ashleigh Klein

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Jimenez.

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Hi everyone.

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I'm Ashley we're doing this mini series

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that is looking at the transformative
journey of the Delta Project,

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a pioneering initiative by the centers
for Disease Control and Prevention

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that's been aimed at preventing
intimate partner violence.

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Over the course of these episodes,
we are going to be exploring

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the rich history, innovative approaches
and profound impact of Delta

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through the voices of those
who have been instrumental in its success.

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Join us as we sit down with CDC,
national Technical

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Assistance Providers and past and present
Delta grantees

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who share their unique insights
and experiences

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from the early days of Delta
to the latest advancements in Delta ahead.

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This podcast celebrates strategies
that have helped intimate partner

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violence prevention
at the community and societal levels.

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Ashley, I'm so excited to do this for you
and thank you all for listening.

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You're

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listening to Prevent Connect, the podcast,
bringing together voices

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from across the movement
to end gender and power based violence.

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To give you the tools to practice
primary prevention in your daily life

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and at work, we're highlighting
emerging research, promising strategies

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and stories from on the ground prevention
practitioners doing this work in new

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and innovative ways, bringing you topics
like foundational strategies

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to prevent violence, primary prevention,
and youth engagement.

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Critical race theory and school Climate
Prevention in a digital age, and more.

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I'm your host, Jenny Sargeant,
and this is perfect.

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Connect.

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welcome to Delta Reflections

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shaping the future of intimate partner
violence prevention.

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It's our mini podcast series.

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And in today's episode we are going to be

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looking at the experiences of people
who have provided

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technical assistance
to Delta recipients over the years.

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And we are so honored to have Casey Keene
with us, the Director of Programs

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and Prevention at the National Resource
Center on Domestic Violence,

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or NCDs, as we lovingly refer to you all.

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And Casey has been with the Delta project

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since its inception,
which is really exciting.

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I feel like, Casey,
we have a lot of questions for you.

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but thank you so much for joining us
today.

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How are you doing?

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I am fantastic,
thank you so much for having me.

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I'm excited to have this conversation.

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Yay, yay.

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Well, we're excited to be with you
and to have this conversation with you.

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And I guess the first question, it's
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that you have really been providing
technical assistance to Delta recipients

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since the beginning of the project
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And so wondering
if you would share your experience

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and how your role
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Thank you.

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Yeah, that's a great question.

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I was a young person when I started

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at the National Resource Center
on Domestic Violence, very young,

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and my first role was as Vernet
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at that time in history,
we got funding from the centers

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for Disease Control and Prevention
to operate the Vernet project

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as an online resource library
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So my role was supporting the prevention
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and resources,
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back then, 2001, the web was really new.

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advocates were just learning
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to support their work.

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and so really, a lot of our training
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how to use the technology, basic things
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to find the information you're looking
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how to engage in our message boards
and our listserv to get peer support.

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so those were the kinds of activities
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the Delta program then started in 2002.

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So I was a new baby in the movement,
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And so since then I've been in a lot of
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has really been connected
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and so I've gotten to witness
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and I've also got to witness the evolution
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And the reason I'm mentioning
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from a conversation among Delta recipients
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how do we bridge the gap between those
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and those who do not?

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And this was like ten years
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when it became really important to,
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and make sure that everybody
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can I just say that I actually
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the internet was just like a baby

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back when Delta was a baby
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And that is such a fascinating piece
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because, yeah, in 2001,
oh my gosh, we still had dial up.

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And so the evolution of these things
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And so thinking about where we are now
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to support our prevention
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I was thinking especially Ashley,
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I was sneaking on to my mom's AOL,
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so much into perspective for me
how much experience you have.

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Casey, in this work,
and what an impactful role you have played

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in shaping one of the biggest intimate
partner violence

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prevention projects ever.

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it's really cool to hear
that you were involved in

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every single part
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How do you feel then
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People are just getting
you used to the internet to now this like

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really comprehensive and innovative
living and breathing program.

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How do you feel Delta projects have shaped
the field of intimate partner

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violence prevention?

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Yeah, no thank you, Janet.

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It's really been profound.

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I would say
that the shift has been profound.

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is really a basic shift
when I think about it.

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And it's in our understanding about what
prevention is and what prevention is not.

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And we have learned along the way that it
is not something additional or extra.

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It's not a side dish.

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In fact, we've we've come to realize,
going back to our roots,

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that prevention is embedded in the history
and the foundation of our work

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as a social change movement.

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it's also not any one person's

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job and absolutely
cannot be accomplished in isolation.

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And you will never get anywhere
doing prevention work alone.

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We all have to create the culture
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And it has to be happening
in every single role

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in our organizations and at every level.

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We've learned that that investment
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And putting a scribing prevention
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title or description
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So the other thing is, we've learned

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there's not really any limits
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We understand
now that prevention is really broad

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and expansive,
and it's in everything we do.

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And it can be anything.

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so the limitlessness of prevention,

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makes it feel a little bit intimidating,
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you have the flexibility to move in
whatever direction inspires

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you and whatever direction
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is that we now

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know that the means are the end,

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that the how we do the work

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by leading with love, by building
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by centering those most impacted,

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by advancing equity, by shifting power, 
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a mindset of abundance and humility,
all of that in the way we do the work.

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That's what matters, that living out
our values is prevention.

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That's the thing that's going
to make the change that we're looking for.

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You know I'm not sure if you know this

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I think you do Ashley does I,

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I was a Delta sub recipient
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And so as you're sharing that

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you know I guess I just want to throw
some appreciation.

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Your way because all of those values
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are how I came to learn about prevention.

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So I am a part of a generation of
prevention ESPs who were shaped by Delta.

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And I remember my Delta project
was truly community centered.

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It felt so creative.

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It was nothing like I had expected
or was experience saying we did a

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a social marketing campaign created with
and for young boys, and it was

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I just felt so deeply impacted by Delta
and it shaped who I am.

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Prevention asked.

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And so I hear these stories sometimes,
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it has not always been this way
and about how far we've come.

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And so I feel so much appreciation
for the folks who helped get us there.

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And and you're one of those people.

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I also know that moving prevention

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that much must have been

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so challenging and rewarding
and just tough.

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Can you talk about some of the challenges
and successes you've witnessed

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throughout your whole journey
working with Delta recipients?

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one of the main challenge is really
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for prevention
why we should be doing it, why it matters,

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why it's important, and why it should be
integrated into everything we do.

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we have really, for a long time
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we have to interrupt the cultural norms
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and the rules that support it.

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We've also known it's a long game

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and that we're invested in it
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But this deep knowing that we have

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based on our experiential wisdom,
it is not enough

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to bring funders and policymakers
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just to say,
we know this with our whole heart.

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it has been a challenge
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inside of our own own organizations
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where people, you know, in your role
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that you could check that prevention box
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We know our movement has been impacted
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like the nonprofit industrial complex,
the carceral state.

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We have over time, really become funder

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driven rather than social change oriented.

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That is what leads to feelings of scarcity

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and division and competition
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and continue to need to, break that down.

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so that means going back to our roots
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that's where we can open the door
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And that takes organizational commitment
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And so what we needed
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to be able to demonstrate
the promise of prevention

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and the impact of prevention,
both internally in their own

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organizations and externally to those
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So in order to do that,
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but they also needed their practice based
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And that was a significant shift
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that I think really got us to the place
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we know this are our deep
knowing is validated by these stories

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and these experiences
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And so that's why we spent
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section of the prevent IPV website,
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and resources to some recipients
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And not just recipients,
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that this is a worthwhile investment.

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we have, you know, built tools together
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And I think we're in a place now where
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in making the case,
which is because of all the, the work

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that we've been doing along the way
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So that, to me,
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to getting us from from point A in 2001

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or 2002 to point B, where we are now.

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gosh, I so there's like so much to respond
to what you just said, Casey.

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that's like at the top of my head
is I'm glad you brought up prevent IPV.

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I use that website all the time.

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Probably at least every other week.

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There's just such a wealth of material

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and, resources
and just an incredible space

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to really find what you need
when we're talking about prevention.

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And, it's it's really an incredible
little slice of the internet

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to help to continue to, build capacity
for people

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who are doing prevention,
but to also reinforce

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and continue to make the case
that prevention is, is possible.

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and prevention works.

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And, you know, earlier
you mentioned the IPV Prevention Council

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and the importance of bringing together
those who are receiving IP prevention

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funding, like Delta and those who aren't,
because there's so much wisdom

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and learning,
both within but also far beyond Delta.

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and that is just

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so important,
I think, when you're talking about like,

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getting back to our roots
and really thinking about social change,

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because that's been happening without this
funding for a long, long time.

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one of the ways that I think you all
and our Khedive

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has really been able to help
tell the stories that are coming

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out of the Delta project,
are this series of stories

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about innovations in prevention
through through Delta?

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and it's something that, you know,
every time you release a new one.

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Over the years, I got really excited
because it truly is a story.

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And I, I love stories, so I'm wondering
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about those Delta stories and some of the,
the ones that kind of stand out to you?

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Oh my gosh, Ashley, thank you so much
and thank you for highlighting.

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You know how valuable you feel.

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The private IPV website is.

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really the goal
there is to make prevention feel.

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Yeah, possible, as you said.

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by providing the tools
that people need to be able to do it.

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but I really feel my greatest joy
in supporting the Delta recipients

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has been capturing their stories.

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storytelling is so dear to to me.

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and I think is is the way we,
we make change together.

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and so we have a variety of stories,
published on our website.

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We have six topic specific stories
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work and lessons
learned from Delta Focus recipients.

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They implemented strategies
to change the environments

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and conditions
in which people live, work, and play.

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And they have stories

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they're on engaging youth, engaging
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policy based prevention,
creating safe community spaces.

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So many different areas to explore.

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But really, my favorite story,
my favorite Delta

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focus story is on trauma
informed community building.

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this is a strategy that really recognizes
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of those who experienced disproportionate
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stressors and experiences of state
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and the development of this story
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what does survivor centered prevention
look like in our work?

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How can we bring survivors into prevention
and, in a meaningful way,

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in a way that really guides

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the direction that we move
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And so that's what I think really
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we're now just, starting
to tell the stories of Delta impact,

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programs and recipients
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they really focused
on improving the structural determinants

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of health
at the societal and community levels.

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And so impact and change at these
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really depends on cross-sector
cross movement partnerships.

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And so that's why the recipients
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how can we make accessible tools
for building relationships,

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fostering relationships

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with those who are poised to partner
with us, and advancing social change

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knowing what we know
that we cannot do the work in isolation.

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We know that the partnerships
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impact story that we published
was on pay equity and a thriving wage.

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the next one, which will be coming
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And what's unique about these stories is, 
first of all, they're completely created

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in partnership with recipients
bringing their experiences to life.

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But both are graphic illustrations.

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So you have a visual story,
and we partnered with On the Right Mind,

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to bring the graphic illustration
components to the stories.

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And really, what we do is
explain how these issues are connected

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to preventing gender based violence,
and explore strategies that really work

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to move us closer to this shared vision
that we that we have

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with those we partner with, where
all individuals and families can thrive.

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So I think what's been really interesting
about the Delta Impact series

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is that we've been able
to really dig into these components,

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and that may not feel, as connected to,

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gender based violence prevention
as we know that they are,

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and really demonstrating those connections
and why people should join us.

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that together we can really create
the change that we're looking for.

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inspiring.

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And I love the visual aspects

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that have been incorporated
in the most recent stories.

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They really I mean, first,
the art is just beautiful.

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and,
and they're so talented in what they do,

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but it really does,
I think, help make a connection

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differently than just reading words
on, on a screen or on paper.

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so if, if our listeners have it,
check those out.

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I really, really encourage you to do that.

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gosh. So, Casey, I'm wondering,

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like, you have been around
now watching the Delta project

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transform and

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shift and the field in general kind of,

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you know, make those pivots and,

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and make the case for prevention.

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And I'm wondering,
you know, given that experience,

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what do you see for the future
of of the Delta project?

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And how do you see Delta recipients
continuing to innovate

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and lead in IPV prevention going forward?

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Yeah, thank you for this question.

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And I have to say,
I feel very old now, know

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having been on this journey for so long,
but I am in it for the long haul.

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and I can see
I can see some amazing things coming.

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So I think as we continue
to think more expansively around

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what prevention is and how it can be done
and who we can partner with to get there,

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we will continue
to build this collective power.

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And that's what's going to lead to the
to the real change we want to see.

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But as far as we've come,

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many, many advocates
working in the movement to end gender

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based violence still do not see themselves
as part of the prevention work.

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many don't identify with the prevention
language.

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many, just aren't seeing

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that they are engaged in prevention
work on a daily basis.

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That is contributing to meaningful change.

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And so that's
why it's been really critical.

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The National IPV Prevention Council,
who is we've talked about it a little bit.

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There are leadership body
comprised of both Delta and non Delta

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funded coalitions, community
based organizations, survivors.

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And just really all kinds of partners
at the table there.

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They're working together to create
a common definition for prevention,

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something that really can resonate
with all people, something that recognizes

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the intersections of our work
with other social movements.

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Because really, we

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think that if everyone
can see their role in prevention

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and if everyone can see
their responsibility and the power

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they have to make the change happen,
we can do it together.

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And so I think that's the thing
that I think is the challenge we're facing

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now is how do we bring everybody
in, how do we create

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an inclusive prevention movement
that everybody feels a part of?

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we know that belongingness
is critical, right?

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And so that's what
we're talking about here.

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Everyone belongs, no matter what
your role is in the movement.

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And so it's bringing everybody together

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under that common understanding.

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That is such an inspiring place
to go and path to see forward.

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We talk all the time about how prevention

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provides
this really transformational shift,

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where we can be creative and where we can
imagine transformational futures.

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And I see that when you speak, you know,

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Casey, thank you so much for
not only sharing your valuable insights,

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but also for being a part of shaping
intimate partner violence prevention.

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And you were a part of shaping my journey
as a prevention first, I know

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likely thousands of other prevention
s all over the country.

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you're perspective
as a technical assistance provider really

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highlights the incredible work
and the impact of the Delta project,

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and I'm so excited to be a part of it
and really excited

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to see where it goes.

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thank you so much, Janine.

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It's truly an honor,
to hear that you see me in that light.

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And it's just been an honor
to witness this journey and be part of it.

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I'm really grateful.

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Thank you for inviting me.

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thanks again, Casey.

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And I just want to also

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thank our listeners for tuning in
to this episode of Delta Reflections.

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Stay with us
as we continue to explore more

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incredible stories
and achievements of the Delta Project.

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